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>> today weekend definitively say that the gaddafi regime has come to an end. >> this week on "inside washington," libya's gaddafi dead.. >> lose all of ur standing from my perspective because you hired illegals. >> the republican debate, up close and personal. >> i don' think i have ever hired an illegal in my life. >> 74% of the americaneople think we're moving in the right
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direction. what iit you are not hearing? >> even the presidtial bus is a target. >> h he is traveling around on the canadian bus touting american jobs. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> president reagan called him "the mad dog of the middle east." he called himself "at. 's king of kings." his 42 -- africa's king of kings." his 42-year reign ended with him cowering in a storm drain begging for his life, reportedly. yesterday, president obama said this. >> we did exactly whawe said we were going to do ilibya. it underscores the capacity of less to work together -- of u us
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to work together as an international community. >> does the capture and death of muammar gaddafi vindicate the president's policy? >> yes. i was a doubter, i worried about mission creep, but it worked.d. gaddafi is gone. the country is not exactly stable but it is free of gaddafi. >> charles? >> i give him allhe credit for the success of stage one. a mistake to bush administration made waso declare "mission accomplished" when the dictator is toppled. we are good that. but h it is only the first stage. the hard part is the substitution of the regime to foll. whether it turns out well oror badly, awe saw in afghanistan
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and iraq, is extremely hard to tell at the point when the regime has just been toppled. >> nina? >> i give the president a lot of credit. i, too, was something of a doubter. it was a limited policy and he stuck with ithen it was taking a lot of shots charles is right, now we wait for chapter 2, where we have very little to do with the right thing -- with teh writn -- with the writing. can o offer paper and pen, but chapter 2 is largely in the hands of the libyans. >> talk to go with is celebrate it -- tough to go with a celebratory sendoff when at the cars are talking at 3:00 in the morning. charles stands virtualllly alone
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with john mccain with those on the other side of the political divide willing to give him credit. all the republican presidential candidates were silent o critical. this gives libya a chance for democracy. it gives libya i chanced -- gives libya a chance to get out the wreckage the despot created. >> the president is popularn libya.a. how long is that going to last? >> anour and a half. there was an austrian prime mister who had russian help putting down a rebellion in huhungary, and he was asked how he would respond, and he said "we will astonish the world with our ingratitude." it will depend not on the remembrance of americans but with the islamists, and there are some in the interim government, to seize power are
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not. that is entirely up in the air. we are not sure right with the players are and how strong to live actors are in this play. >> i heard a man whose brother died in the explosion over lockerbie, scotland, say that the way that the obama administration has dealt witith this should be a blueprint for the future, to use technology and intelligence rather than to go in and occupy countries like iraq and afghanistan. anybody want t to take issue with that? >> the big breakthrougis the drone. it allowed us to do many things and could find gaddafi -- including find gaddafi. but other people can build grounds, too, and i fear the day when they me flying our way. >> that is almost an inevitabity, because they are making them smaller and smaller. >> somebody who was skeptical o
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the president's in bachmann, without the constitutional or legal safefeguards we expect -- the president's involvement without the constitutional or legal safeguards expe i going to war -- the president was very careful when he made the statement to say that this was without the involvement of a sisingle u.s. service member -- >> on the ground. >> nobody doubts that there were cia people w were helping and were instrumental in the ppling. >> osama bin laden, anwar a- l-awlaki now muammaraddafi. as the president get credit for this? >> presidents don't get credit for this stuff. jimmy carter managed a peace deal in the middle east and he got the teeniest blip. >> democrats were seen as soft
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and weak on national security for a long time. you don't hear that much now. obama has been pretty tough in n a narrowly focused way. >> the secretary of state is over there, telling pakistan to get its act together. what are your feelings on that charles? >> it is our 182nd warning. i am sure it will be received like the first 181, with content and neglect at best. ththe pakistanis have their own interests. they understand america is here, but will be gone in two years. they will have to be in the region for the next 100 or 200 and we will b be gone. they do not take our interests into account as they would otherwise. that is a fact of life i am not sure anything will change in our relationship. as long as the haqqaniad guys are in the interests of some elements of the pakistanis --
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they were aboutut afghanistan becoming an appendage of india -- they worry about afghanistan becoming an appendage of india -- the policy will remain the same. >> the president does get credit. what is fascinating is that in a recent poll, he gets low marks on the economy and medediocre marks on the job rati. by a 2-1 margin on terrorism, he gets a favorab rating. how salient with that be with 9%nemployment? you ought the chairman othe joint chiefs of staff, general petrus secretatary of state -- if they cannot deliver the message, i am not sure how it will be done. >> no administraration seems to be able to figure outut what to do about is.
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>> we went to the cpany and said, look, you cannot have it illegals working for the company. i'm running for office, for pete's sake. we fired them. >> i think that is an uh-oh moment at mitt romney at responding to rick perry's claim that romy had hed the wrong people toork at hiss home in massachusetts. the democratic national committee is already running with this. >> this is another crack in an otherwise amazingly smooth facade in these debates. by blunt tactics -- there was nothing very charming or attractive about rick perry's approach, but with crude tactics, he got under his skin
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just enough to do damage. >> if perryere smart, he would have come back and said bubutoh you were running for office and tt is why? but he is not smart about this ind of thing. mitt romomney, but it also damaged -- a damaged mitt romney, but it also damaged the whole franchise. there is nobody you want to have at your house. >> the bickersons, let's be honest. whatever you say aut rick perry, he was notot decaffeinated -- >> no, n no. >> came out ready to go, and he did petrate that unflappable terior of mitt romney, and when theyy started to look like housewives -- [laughter]
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>> charles says he is still tex as and that is not enough on a national scale. >> whenever you k him what should be an easy question -- health care or the rise of chchina -- he rreats to his energy plan. it is not as if he is being asked gotcha questns. he knows about energy, education, immigration, although keyhe booted questions on immigration. you wonder if he has sat down and thought about national issues. yes, he is not nimbl in debate. he had a great opening and he missed it. head several others, in fact. you can be sure that with an absence of that nimbleness he will be eaten alive in a one-on- one with obama. but the grounding in issues -- he could come up to speed, anand he's extremely good at retail politics tt he could r redeem
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himself that way. but each time you watch him in a debate, you wonder if he will make it. >> the median homerice drop to 30% since 2006. homeowners lost $7.40 trillion and equity. what are the candidates say about it? >> it was a bubble and it burst. it is not as if the price of a house in 2006 was its rl value in gold. it was a bubble and it collapsed. >> 5 million americans have lost their homes, another 3 million will lose -- >> usually when you have a president in a week at re- election situation -- like with 9% unempyment -- you have a strong field on the other side. compard this to 1980, when howard baker bob dole ronald reagan, and george h.w. bush were runnining, you go where are
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the strong republicans that shld be taking the field? >> is this the best they can do? >> these debates are content- free. so was the presidential debate in 2008, the last one, because no politician wilill get into difficult south you have to do to fix this. it is merely excess of personalities -- not insigficant, i might add, but it has nothing to do with content. >> of the question you raised this is so important, what has happened to home priceand value. yes, charl is right, it is on paper, but the reali is we have not pat raises inin the median incomeme in the country so the substite is credit, especially easy creditettingng second mortgages. people are spending their equity and their homomes to compensate
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for the fact that they were not rising economically. that is gone and that sense of security is gone. you have the voters who are worried about their children's future, their own future, and the countriefuture. >> which is what olympia snowe wawas talking about at the beginning of that broadcast. the census bureau tells us that 46.2 americans are living below the poverty level the lowest in half a century. ared they talking about that? >> i would point out that for the last three years we have had a democratic president who promised he would fix this. >> you look at the -- >> i am asking about republican candidates. >> look, the republicans have a lot of strong politians -- ryan daniels in indiana, christie. theyey decided for whatever reon some personal, some political, they were not going to run.
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th is a relatively weak field. it is disappointing because there are heavy weights that would match the 1980 lineup that republicans had. if r republicans lose this cycle they will hahave a strong field in 2016 when all of these guys are going to run. it isemarkable in year one o the president is so weaeak, the economy is souch courage and, that the opposition, as in 1992 with the democrats, where all the heavy weights stay outnd then clinton said in. >> the problem is coarable to 1992 -- in 1991, when people were making a decision to run george h.w. bush was unbeatab. bararack obama was the consensus -- conventional wisdom was he cannot be beaten so he better wait until 2016. thpeople who get in are the only ones who are getting elected are the ones who run.
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what does the transcanada ketotone pipeline mean for america? berringer: for me and my family it meant a good union job here in nebraska. wallace: for small businesses like ours the pipeline means more customers thru our doors. spears: it's an economic boom to the restaurants and all the shops in town. schieber: for kay county it's going to make about $20 million dollars difference in our tax base...85% of that is going to go to our schools. spears: this means more oil from a safe reliable neighbor. adkins: and lower prices for me, here at the pump. kennedy: it's time to get the transcanada
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keystone pipeline working for america.
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>> don't be bamboozled. don't fall for this notion that somehow the j jobs act is raising your taxes. it is justot true. >> let's park the campaign bus put away the taing points, i do sometething t to address the jobs crisis. >> senator mcconnell and presesident obama on his three-day bus tour. the strategy of trying to pass the bill in pieces is not working so far. thursday the senate blocked paage of the $35 b billion bill for states and mununicipities to deal witith teachers, firefighrs, cops, keep those on the job and hire some more. >> the republican approach to this seems to be if youannot do everything, do nothing. this is not a panacea by any
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means, but he is a addressing a oblem that we have not faced in this country in the history of recorded statistical information. ththe average unemployment is 40.5 weeks, twice as long as it has been in the past. half of the peopople now -- close to half the people -- being out for more than sisix months. this is devastating psychologically personally, and professional it to somebody to be out of work that long. when you are asked "what do you do," and you cannot say anything, that is devastating. the idea of playing political gam is unacceptable. >> look, i symthize with what mark has said, b the idea that the solution to chronic unemployment is hiring me state workers on a temporary basis is in st.. the only way -- is insane.e. the only way you get a twocure
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ng-term unemployment is to get the private economy running. republican ideas of reducing regulation, recinghe corporate tax, getting the private economomy stimulated, is the only plausible answer. you may say it willake too long, but unless you start that, you will never have a recovery of the pvate sector. >> what about doing what roosevelt did during the pression? >> what w was unemploent in 1937? it was as high as it was in the beginning. >> i was jt reading about this period in the roosevelt administration and we had this idea that he did stop and it all workrked. it did not all work. but when he di't, he tried something else. he was very much sort of proactive. "ok, this doesn't work? we will try something else." we did have an economy of the kind that charles is suggesting
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a completete -- a muchh deregulated, low-tax economy, in the early 2000 at's, and it didn'tork. it led to what we have now. you see this in the polls -- obamis ting to do something and i suspect he will get some credit for that -- >> he we have theighest corporate tax rate in the world. even obama speaks about it as a liability. is hurting investment in the u.s. it is obvious ey, and is lying out there. he won't uch a. >> what got us out of the depression was world war ii. what is gog to get us out of this mess, i fear, is someme terrible crisis in europe that will bring the e entire global system crashing down, and out of that rubble, finally governments will be forced to do somethi. >> mr. apocalye. >> after the apocalypse.
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>> some giant stimulus reform -- i always cling to this hope that real reform will happen but unless we have a a crisis, i don't think is going to. >> instead of putting cops firefighters teachers to work, what we ought to have is another series of tax cuts for those who need it the least. and th worked so beautifully well that, my goodness, let's have a symphony of tax cuts -- >> you pretended that you were worried about the long-term unemployed. hiring a teacher in alaska will not help the unemployed die in theguy in pittsburgh.
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>> i have never seen and uglier bus. he is traveling around on the cananadian bus touting americican jobs. >> it was made in canada but
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the secret service bought it from an americanan company in nashville, tennessee, outfitted the interior. >> problem with this bus is that it looks ominous, it is scary- looking. i don't know why they made it black -- >> but the point is that it is a canadian bus. >> what is r really going on is thatat the secret service is calling the shots. i am deeply sympathetic to this. think of h how hard the job is -- the secret service job is always hard but in this atmosphere the time we live in, to protect a black president othe united states, with all the hate that is out there, i am willi to give the secret service a lot of leeweway to do whatever they wante. >> maybe he should not use a bus. it looks like a vehicle i in which you would transport a condned
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man to the gallows. [laughter] >> i will ignore the previous remarks and returned to evan's. he is right. ses have never been popular in the united states. we like presidents on trains. >> the secret service bought two but the republican nominee will ride inhe other one. last word. see you next week.
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